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Thursday, May 19, 2005

Liberal Kid with a GREAT Girly Site

I have recently had some exchanges with a young liberal in Southern California - the latest you might find interesting, as he kindly dedicated an entire entry to yours truly (and how could I do otherwise?). At the end, I will give you the link to his "Hotty of the Day" which is anything but PC, and very little like my image of "liberal." If Jaba (aka "Elephant Hunter") makes you angry with his comments, go easy on him...he is only young and ill-informed!

From JABA - 18 May 2005

"You are too angry and ill-informed - you need a time out" - Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black. If I recall your post that I commented on, you were basically calling anyone not a right wing nazi a bunch of pussies. You suggested that us pussies join the military. By the tone of your post, I'm pretty sure you're a bit angry too. Am I angry? Of course I am. I'm pissed that this country is being led down the shithole by a bunch of right wing fanatics.

About the ill-informed part. I noticed on your blog profile that you work as a consultant for a large defense contractor. Well this "ill-informed" Democrat happens to also work at a large defense contractors (one of the largest in the country). Unlike you, I'm not a consultant working on some project but a full-time employee that works in the CEO suite and interacts on a daily basis with senior executives that have served as 1 and 2 star generals, senior military personnel (when I say senior, I mean, for example the former #2 guy at one of our 3 letter intelligence agencies is in my electronic rolodex and calls me back when I leave him a voicemail) from every branch of the DOD and the intelligence community. While I've never fired a bullet for my country (neither has GW), I'm involved in "stuff" that is of importance to our country. To do what I do, and at the executive level that I do it at, and at the age of 28, I'm going to guess that I'm not as ill informed as you think. Your post is quite presumptuous and condescending, which isn't unusual for a right wing nut.

Since you mentioned my all-you-can-eat buffet post, I'm assuming you read quite a bit of my blog. Perhaps YOU are too angry to realize that I try to wrap a lot of my blogs in sarcasm and humor. Do I really think that all Republicans are fascists? No. But I, along with many others, think that many Republicans have swung too far to the right. What also ticks me off, and is the reason I commented on your post in the first plae, are right wingers who portray anyone that isn't fanatical as somehow un-American. That's utter bullshit.

Oh, before I forget...your swipe at Clinton. As a consultant at a defense contractor and with your years in the military, I'm pretty sure you know that the decrease in military spending during the Clinton years reduced the amount of missiles, tanks, aircraft, etc. stuff that were necessary to fight the Cold War but weren't necesarily helpful in stopping those planes on 9/11. While Clinton did make a mistake by reducing intelligence spending, there was apparently enough money and enough intelligence for the Clinton administration to warn the newly elected GW in 2000 that they should view Al Queda as the country's number 1 threat. A warning that GW and his administration didn't exactly listen to until 9/11. There is shared blame across party lines for 9/11. And don't make me remind you of the weapons placed in the hands of our current enemies by the Republican administration in the late 80's and early 90's.

On a lighter note, I'm glad you like the girly site. Please make sure to stop by as I post new girls daily. Feel free to send me a suggestions as well. And at least we agree on one thing: my buddies who won't go to Vegas with me are a bunch of wussies.

From Timmer - May 19 2005

Jeez Killer - I hardly know where to begin! First, I guess I should thank you for the plug - I would like to have many visits from your readers on my site! Really.

I responded to your comment (which was a response to my comment on OKDemocrat's site) mostly because you missed my obvious sarcasm and reacted emotionally - "loud mouth pissy military people" is how you put it. Having served for 20 years in the Navy, did you imagine I wouldn't react to this kind of disrespect?

Judging you solely on your comments that day, you did need a time out. And yes, I'll say it again, you still sound like you could use a gig in the military. Your liberalism notwithstanding, I think you need to rethink blanket statements against the people in uniform who willingly die for you and yours on foreign soil...perhaps even those folks in your "rolodex" would agree with me?

I have lots of friends who never served, and I don't hold that against them. However, these folks (one and all) are glad that there are people like me and so many others that have and do serve on their behalf.

Now, about this CONTRACTOR stuff:
---If you are in fact working at the level you suggest, you should already know these factoids - which you obviously don't, so I can only conclude that you are at best a young suit who runs around doing the bidding of these "senior executives" (and at worst full of shit ;-) If the former, I get coffee from folks like you every morning...which is still not a bad gig for your age.
---If you are located in Southern California, you are basically at a minor outpost of the "3-letter agencies"...two of which I work for in the D.C. area (where it all happens, as you know?). In fact, I have worked for one of these (both in and out of the Navy) since you were in the first grade.
---"Senior Consultant" is what we say in this business when we can't say exactly what it is we do...this you should know, given your "lofty" position. I am a full-time employee as well, but have signed lots of documents that prevent me from revealing further details...apparently you are not so encumbered (hmmm?).
---Your implied "insider knowledge" that the Clinton reductions in defense spending were geared only toward cold war-related armaments, and somehow might not be applicable to modern defense and war, are naive at best...blind (due to total immersion into liberal new-speak) at worst.

Now, we can carry on like this and probably enjoy it (I know I would), or you can ask me why it is I feel the way I do about certain issues. I enjoy both types of dialogue immensely -- your choice!

And yes, even though my team of colleagues and I (all former military and all current "Senior Consultants") enjoyed some laughs at your expense today, we all agreed that you must certainly be salvageable due to your well-managed girly site, which we have all bookmarked for further off-time scrutiny. I can also guarantee you that MY FRIENDS would have gone to Las Vegas.

I think I will honor you on my website as well (quid pro quo ;-), and will make sure to promote your better site as well.

Cheers for now, Timmer

Oh! And Jaba's GOOD website is http://hottieoftheday.blogspot.com/


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